Remembering Active Role is ACTION AND FEELING
In this case “there are” two fathers, one Father of the daughter and Father of the son.
As for action
Talking is not necessarily an action. You can talk without saying anything. It’s one thing to “talk” and another to “communicator,” and “that I communicate.” EJ Communicator Machista (Sentimetio) Juzgador. “o” Sarcastic Humiliator, etc.
With the son, the same, eg, Angry Dictator etc.
Both. The role felt by the [other[ son and daughter gives light to the role that causes that reaction.